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Donation season again

“The internet we were promised. 21 November: An important update for readers in Australia. You deserve an explanation, so please don't skip this 1-minute read. It's Thursday, 21 November, and this message will be up for only a few hours.”

The same damn message I saw 2 weeks ago. Seriously, do they put it up for a few hours the turn it off for a few hours in alternation?

Or is there a timestamp such that each cookie-bearing individual only sees the message for a few hours (or until the Cookie Monster visits and clears their tokens)?

I deserve an explanation.

At least now it is “we ask you, sincerely” instead of “we ask you, humbly”. The fake humility used to grind my gears.

. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 19:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-GivingTuesday, I understand that the main US-focused campaign often runs for a few hours here and there, or perhaps a whole day, depending on what they need to test.

That said, the timing varies by country, though, so I'm not sure whether you're seeing testing at the moment or if this is the 'normal' campaign for your location. US donors often prefer to make their donations towards the end of the calendar year, but other places have other patterns. (I've heard that US editors, who are a minority of donors, tend to donate quite early in the campaign.)

If you don't want to see these banners, then go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-centralnotice-banners (or Special:GlobalPreferences#mw-prefsection-centralnotice-banners) and turn them off. There are cookies to suppress it for non-logged-in people (if you click the button to make it go away), but as of more than a decade ago, that only worked for a week at a time. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of a request for transwiki importer rights

A request for the assignment of transwiki importer rights is occurring at Wikipedia talk:Requests for page importation#Request for transwiki-importer - EggRoll97. To participate, please see the linked section. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 15:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sign up for the language community meeting on November 29th, 16:00 UTC

Hello everyone,

The next language community meeting is coming up next week, on November 29th, at 16:00 UTC (Zonestamp! For your timezone <https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1732896000>). If you're interested in joining, you can sign up on this wiki page: <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Language_and_Product_Localization/Community_meetings#29_November_2024>.

This participant-driven meeting will be organized by the Wikimedia Foundation’s Language Product Localization team and the Language Diversity Hub. There will be presentations on topics like developing language keyboards, the creation of the Moore Wikipedia, and the language support track at Wiki Indaba. We will also have members from the Wayuunaiki community joining us to share their experiences with the Incubator and as a new community within our movement. This meeting will have a Spanish interpretation.

Looking forward to seeing you at the language community meeting! Cheers, Srishti 19:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revert these edits from 15+ years ago on pages by IP editor on pages about Greek instruments

I don't know if here is where this should be posted. On pages about ancient Greek musical instruments like epigonion there is something about "ASTRA Project" that appears to be advertising of this project. These links were added over 15 years ago, and no one noticed. They should be removed as said previously it's advertising. Draheinsunvale (talk) 01:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While I see plenty of things that could be improved in the Epigonion article, I don't think advertising for ASTRA is a problem. I couldn't find a surviving link to anything that explained what ASTRA was. Donald Albury 02:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Links to www.astraproject.org (LinkSearch) were added around 2009 and are in Aulos + Barbiton + Epigonion + Salpinx + Physical modelling synthesis. It should all be removed because the reference (archived example) is not worthwhile and the original (astraproject.org) has been usurped and is now gambling spam, see WP:JUDI. Johnuniq (talk) 03:11, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Export and Wikidata QID?

Hello everyone, the Wikidata for Wikimedia projects team is investigating the benefit of adding a new <tag> for a Wikidata item QID into the XML file output from the Special:Export function.
Have you used this function before? If yes, we would like to hear from you.

Would adding a new <tag> for a linked Wikidata item (e.g. <wikidataid>) aid you?
What types of pages did you export? (article, template, talk etc.)
What did you do with the exported content?

Please leave your comments or questions as a reply to this message, thank you. -Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 15:36, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What does this new tag do? Blueboar (talk) 18:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)tag.[reply]

@Blueboar The message is referring to tags in the XML file you get from exporting a page, not tags that are used in wikitext. The tag doesn't "do" anything, XML files use HTML like tags to mark up data fields. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 20:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Desblock my account in Wikipedia spanish

Hi wikis,please asked to the User:Taichi (hes blocked my account and e-mail indefinitely from this https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Solicitudes_de_verificaci%C3%B3n_de_usuarios?markasread=58923216&markasreadwiki=eswiki) I'm not a sockpuppet of these users. AbchyZa22 (talk) 10:47, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But im a good faith so please asked this user Taichi AbchyZa22 (talk) 10:48, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AbchyZa22, as this is the English Wikipedia, we have no authority over the Spanish Wikipedia. Each language Wikipedia is a separate project. If you are blocked on Spanish Wikipedia, you will have to appeal your block there; you can find instructions here in regards to that. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 10:54, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, AbchyZa22. This is the English Wikipedia. The Spanish Wikipedia is a separate autonomous project with its own policies, guidelines and administrators. We have no influence or power over them. We cannot help you here. You must use the block appeal processes on the Spanish Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 10:57, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thank you AbchyZa22 (talk) 10:58, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cullen328@Seraphimblade:Can't edit (https://es.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Especial:UsuariosBloqueados&wpTarget=%239201891) look AbchyZa22 (talk) 11:05, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to hear it, but there's really nothing we can do about it. You will have to follow whatever appeals process the Spanish Wikipedia has; we can neither do that for you nor do anything about it. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 11:07, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AbchyZa22, I hope that you understand that English Wikipedia editors and adminstrators have no power whatsoever over the Spanish Wikipedia. We are not their bosses in any way. Cullen328 (talk) 11:33, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Temporary Accounts - introduction to the project

The Wikimedia Foundation is in the process of rolling out temporary accounts for unregistered (logged-out) editors on multiple wikis. The pilot communities have the chance to test and share comments to improve the feature before it is deployed on all wikis in mid-2025.

Temporary accounts will be used to attribute new edits made by logged-out users instead of the IP addresses. It will not be an exact replacement, though. First, temporary users will have access to some functionalities currently inaccessible for logged-out editors (like notifications). Secondly, the Wikimedia projects will continue to use IP addresses of logged-out editors behind the scenes, and experienced community members will be able to access them when necessary. This change is especially relevant to the logged-out editors and anyone who uses IP addresses when blocking users and keeping the wikis safe. Older IP addresses that were recorded before the introduction of temporary accounts on a wiki will not be modified.

We would like to invite you to read the first of a series of posts dedicated to temporary accounts. It gives an overview of the basics of the project, impact on different groups of users, and the plan for introducing the change on all wikis.

We will do our best to inform everyone impacted ahead of time. Information about temporary accounts will be available on Tech News, Diff, other blogs, different wikipages, banners, and other forms. At conferences, we or our colleagues on our behalf are inviting attendees to talk about this project. In addition, we are contacting affiliates running community support programs.

Subscribe to our new newsletter to stay close in touch. To learn more about the project, check out the FAQ and look at the latest updates. Talk to us on our project page or off-wiki. See you! NKohli (WMF) and SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 17:39, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My main question is: will people still be allowed to mention the IP adresses onwiki in e.g. sockpuppet investigations? If not, then this seems like a severe nuisance for such investigations. But if this will be considered a form of outing or confidentiality breach, then that should be made very clear and taken into consideration before deciding whether this is a blocker for this project or not. Fram (talk) 17:47, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great question. The Wikimedia Access to Temporary Account IP Addresses Policy says

When it is reasonably believed to be necessary, users with access to temporary account IP addresses may also disclose the IP addresses in appropriate venues that enable them to enforce or investigate potential violations of our Terms of Use, the Privacy Policy, or any Wikimedia Foundation or user community-based policies. Appropriate venues for such disclosures include pages dedicated to Long-term abuse. If such a disclosure later becomes unnecessary, then the IP address should be promptly removed.

In short, it's better not to do it unless you have a good reason and you do it on the right page (like Wikipedia:Long-term abuse). SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 17:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I presume any "official" page dealing with abuse (WP:AN, WP:ANI, WP:SPI, and arbcom) may be considered acceptable locations then. Of course within reason, not gratuitously disclosing IPs for the sake of it. Fram (talk) 18:06, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, exactly! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 18:12, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]