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Non-federations

Some countries exhibit characteristics of a federation, but are not. For example, Spain has a relationship resembling that of a federation with its autonomous communities; however, they are created by and exist at the suffrance of the central government, rather than being distinct entities that have chosen to join together.

In this case, you've have to add Belgium to this list too... -195.144.90.50, Dec 2003

UAE

Under "Long form titles", the UAE is listed under "None" when it is pretty clear that it is a long form title. It is similar to Mexico, listed under "Others" - United Mexican States as compared with United Arab Emirates - Mexico, like Arabia, is the geographical location, while States, like Emirates, is the political subentity. I've edited the page

In addition, according to the first clause of Article 1 of the Malaysian constitution, it states (roughly translated), "The Federation shall be known, in Malay and in English, by the name Malaysia." It doesn't state "Federation of Malaysia" or "Persekutuan Malaysia". But since the article Malaysia uses "Persekutuan Malaysia", I'll shall keep it that way. --Rajan R 06:58, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Belgium

Belgium is listed as a unitary state but it refers to itself as a federation. This should be corrected

Patrick Fafard Canada

As far as I can gather it seems to be a federation so I've moved it to that list. But if anyone knows better please shout. Iota 00:04, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

-Belgium used to be a unitary state, but they made a change-over to federacy in the last decades :)

Lead

The lead is much too long, and the latter part of it deteriorates into a listing of various federations that editors seem to have thought were significant. Germany is raised as an example twice and some cases are pretty obscure for the general reader (Austria-Hungary) or questionable as federations (the League of Corinth). I'd be keen to reduce paragraph 3 and following to: A federation is distinct from a unitary state, which is governed as a single entity in which the central government is the supreme authority, and from a confederation, which is set of sovereign states united for purposes of common action. Federations are often multi-ethnic and cover a large area of territory, but neither is necessarily the case. Several ancient and medieval chiefdoms and kingdoms could be described as federations or confederations. Several colonies and dominions consisting of autonomous provinces transformed into federal states upon independence. In some recent cases, federations have been instituted as a measure to handle ethnic conflict within a state. The oldest currently existing federation is the United States, whose constitution went into effect on 4 March 1789; the newest is Nepal, which became a federation on 20 September 2015 [I'd be open to removing the last sentence]. The lead ought also to say something regarding "confederations" and "empires" Furius (talk) 20:29, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

India

It is not a pure federation. It has several unitary features like dominance of the center over the state, single citizenship, etc. 2409:4060:100:6B3F:388D:BF74:422B:4283 (talk) 14:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hello?

This need a clarification. 2409:4060:2D3E:FF6A:388D:BF74:422B:4283 (talk) 04:41, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All the countries classified as federations have a single citizenship: Canadian, Mexican, Argentinian, German, etc. The balance of power between the central and second-level governments in those countries varies considerably, but they're still federations, as "federation" doesn't define that balance. Largoplazo (talk) 11:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Japan

> It can be considered in comparison with the unitary state. France and Japan, for example, have been unitary for many centuries.

This sentence is highly disputable. Japan's prefecture 都道府県 have their own governor and have probably even more control than Canadian states. Like for Russia and Canada, Japan's government is mainly about international affairs. And "centuries"? Well, its true the Japan's history is much longer than baby nations like the U.S. and Canada, but up until the Meiji restoration (1868), Japan has been quite divided.

Prefecture have their own laws, just like U.S. states. See - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Autonomy_Law - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_Japan - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefectures_of_Japan - https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/g01159/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 240D:F:D70:400:5BEB:FF53:B754:D5 (talk) 04:58, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]